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| Osiodhachain |
 Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:28 am |
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Okay, I know this has been beaten to death already, but I'm going to throw out a couple more bits of supporting evidence about Harry being a Horcrux.
Let's assume that Voldemort was intending to create a Horcrux on the night of the Potters' murders. They were significant murders and we know he liked to make his little soul trinkets after the more important slayings.
Voldemort may well have prepared whatever was necessary to complete the Horcrux ritual before going to Godric's Hollow. Then all he needed was to kill. (Perhaps this is why he offers Lily the chance to stand aside – he only needs the one important death: Harry's). Obviously he didn't intend to make Harry his Horcrux, but if the enchantment was already set into motion or a potion had already been ingested, and then the killing curse backfired, he might have had no control at that point.
But let's really think about this. If Voldemort was prepared to make a Horcrux that night, surely he had an object on hand to house his piece of soul. This is a little out there, but what if James Potter was Gryffindor's heir (living in Godric's Hollow, Harry pulls Gryffindor's sword from the hat, etc) and he had the sword on display over the mantle or something? Perhaps Voldemort knew this and thought it would be a handy opportunity to make it into a Horcrux in celebration of Harry's death. And Dumbledore knows it's clean because he fetched it from the rubble of the house.
Anyway, the spell backfires and Harry (or his scar) becomes the Horcrux. Dumbledore did mention at one point that he suspected Voldemort had inadvertently transferred some of his powers to Harry when he tried to kill him and failed. But I just don't buy the idea that Voldemort's powers could have simply "rubbed off" on Harry. The things he has in common with Voldemort aren't really powers anyway, but innate abilities. There had to be more involved. So, throw in a dark, soul-splitting ritual and I'll take "Harry's a Horcrux" for 500, Alex.
So here's the laundry list of things that tie Harry to Voldemort:
~ Ability to speak Parseltongue
~ Gets the 'brother' wand of Voldemort's
~ Nearly gets sorted into Slytherin
~ Can open the Chamber of Secrets (supposedly just because he can command it to open in Parseltongue, but maybe it was also because the Chamber recognized that he had a part of Tom Riddle in him)
~ Can sense Voldemort's emotions/nearness through the pain in his scar
~ Dreams vividly from Voldy's or Nagini's perspective
~ Dumbledore's little silver smoke machine shows two entwined snakes that are 'in essence divided' (or something like that)
It would be rather ironic if Lily's sacrifice saved Harry's life only to have him be the recipient of a little piece of Voldemort's soul.
Here's a hitch though: Dumbledore said that all of the Horcruxes must be destroyed before Voldemort will be capable of dying. That would mean that Harry would have to kill himself, in which case he wouldn't be around to finish off Voldemort. But perhaps he kills Voldemort's body and Voldemort's spirit jumps to Harry, since that's where the last piece of his soul resides, and is then completely vanquished by the love in Harry's system. Having a piece of the Dark Lord in him, as well as the residue of his mother's love, really would make Harry uniquely suited to vanquishing the Dark Lord.
So to belabor an old point, I think Harry's a Horcrux. Anyone have anything to add to my ramblings? |
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| Sanguine |
| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:35 am |
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what about the 'gleam of triumph' in Dumbledore's eyes when he's told that Voldemort used Harry's blood in his resurrection?
Does this mean that because part of Voldemort is in Harry, and now vice-versa, Harry can kill him without killing himself? Or, because of the 'lingering protection' from Lily's death now residing in Voldemort as well, will this raise complications when Voldemort and Harry face one another? Possibly in Harry's favour?
All this thinking hurts my brain. |
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| bracken |
| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:16 pm |
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| When I first read about this idea on another site I dismissed it because I didn't think that Voldemort would make a living being (who could die) a vessel for his soul. Osiodhachain makes some arguments that make sense to me, especially that it happened accidentally on the night Harry's parents were killed. It might also explain Voldemort's reluctance to kill Harry outright, or at least have others kill him. He would need to be in a position to retrieve that part of him at Harry's death. |
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| Osiodhachain |
| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:27 pm |
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Okay, I just had another thought that supports this theory.
In the battle at the MoM at the end of OotP, Harry is briefly inhabited by Voldemort. I don't remember the exact sequence of events, but V. disappears, and Harry thinks he's gone, but Dumbledore knows something fishy is going on. Then Harry feels like he's about to die of pain and Voldemort is speaking through Harry, telling Dumbledore to kill him.
We know that Voldemort has inhabited people/animals before while living in that in-between state after his killing curse backfired on Harry. But this was, if I'm not mistaken, the first time that he inhabited someone else since he returned to his own body at the end of GoF. So, how would that work, unless he forced his way in via the bit of his soul lodged in Harry?
I believe that Dumbledore made the point in OotP that Voldemort was as yet unaware of the access Harry had to Voldy's emotions through his scar. But on the night that Harry saw Mr. Weasley attacked, Voldemort became aware of the link and maybe began to exploit it. Thus began the Occlumency lessons in an attempt to block off that connection. Recall also that Dumbledore avoided Harry throughout the book because he saw a shadow of Tom Riddle behind his eyes.
Voldemort's inhabitation of Harry at the MoM was certainly evidence that Voldy had figured out that Harry was a Horcrux and how to use that to his advantage. My guess is that he either left his own body to fully inhabit Harry, hoping to induce Dumbledore to kill the boy, but planning to pull out with his soul intact and leave Harry for dead. OR he simply accessed the piece of his soul in Harry for the first time and spoke through him, figuring that one less Horcrux was a fair trade for Harry's death.
It seems significant that Voldemort was able to disappear bodily and then so easily inhabit Harry. Also, note how the pain associated with encounters with Voldemort is almost always centralized in Harry's scar. I'm telling you, it's more than just the reminder of a particularly nasty curse! |
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| Beulah_Page |
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:29 am |
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| Well, I'm not sure I entirely agree with this theory, but I don't completely discount it, either. But you do have some good points. Harry being able to view Voldemort's activities through Nagini's perspective points to it (her? I don't remember) as being a Horcrux; having a part of Voldemort's soul is the only way it makes sense to have anything from Nagini's perspective. |
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