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Verity Brown
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:25 am Reply with quote
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Two Methyloctane wrote:

It's possible Voldemort doesn't know about the consequences of the DADA position, otherwise why would he have Snape constantly applying for it?


During most of that time, Voldemort was out of the picture. I do have to wonder if Snape even knew about the curse, although if no one has kept it more than a year, I don't know how he wouldn't wonder about that.

I suspect that Snape may not have known about the curse until Dumbledore actually gave him the DADA job. Dumbledore is famous for keeping information to himself until the person absolutely needs it. Even Harry seems to have noticed (or at least observed, through the Harry filter) that Snape was not as overjoyed about the job as one would expect: "Snape, who was sitting on Dumbledore's right, did not stand up at the mention of his name; he merely raised a hand in lazy acknowledgment of the applause from the Slytherin table, yet Harry was sure he could detect a look of triumph on the features he loathed so much" (chapter 9). Hmmmm, Harry has to detect a triumphant look on the face of the man who has finally got his wish about teaching DADA? A man who is not known for restraining a sometimes childish delight in getting his way?

My thoughts are that Dumbledore knew about Snape's Vow, which would mean that one way or another, Snape would likely not be teaching at Hogwarts the following year. I find it interesting that Dumbledore would not give Snape the position the previous year, when the only alternative was Umbridge. And yet he did give it to him this year, even though one gets the impression that Slughorn could probably have taught DADA just as well as he could teach Potions (and certainly better than many of the teachers they've had).


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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:30 am Reply with quote
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I don't think Dumbledore had a choice when it came to Umbridge. He couldn't find a teacher in time, so the Ministry used that to jump in and interfere.

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Verity Brown
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:39 am Reply with quote
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Well, what I meant is: if Dumbledore had allowed Snape to teach DADA last year, he wouldn't have had to deal with Umbridge and her Ministry-approved interference. If accepting Umbridge was better than allowing Snape to teach DADA last year, why is it suddenly ok this year?


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Two Methyloctane
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:49 am Reply with quote
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Ah, okay, I understand you now.

Maybe Dumbledore didn't think the situation was quite as dire in OotP... Or else he didn't think the Ministry would allow someone as horrible as Umbridge to teach...

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Two Methyloctane
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:26 pm Reply with quote
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Another thing I had been thinking of, but don't remember if me or anyone else had posted this thought:

What if Dumbledore needed a reason to get rid of Snape in a years time?

I'm guessing, given that Snape is at his home, that it is summer when Narcissa and Bellatrix come to him, and make the Unbreakable Vow, and so afterwards Snape goes to Dumbledore, tells him of the Vow, and then Dumbledore goes to Slughorn and asks him to take Potions.

Or else, Snape tells Dumbledore about the Vow, but nothing happens until Snape tells Dumbledore that he doesn't want to spy anymore (grief over Vance, Bones, etc) and his position as a spy is becoming more fragile and he needs a way to get out of the school... Dumbledore assigns him DADA knowing in some way that Snape will not return. This doesn't look as suspicious as outright firing him, making it look as if Dumbledore didn't know about the curse or something similar. At any rate, it gets Snape out of Hogwarts...

Sorry if it's been mentioned, its just been on my mind a lot lately.

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