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| Owlbait |
 Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:21 am |
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Is the Lestrange who is in the Slug Club with Tom Riddle Rodolphus, or his father? If it's Rodolphus there is quite a age cap between him and Bellatrix.
The mysterious R.A.B. -- did he manage to destroy the locket? If so, how can Harry know for certain -- or is Harry going to be forced into a final confrontation with Voldemort with no certainty that all the Horcruxes are gone? I suspect this may be the way it plays out at the end of book 7. |
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| Kherezae |
| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:07 pm |
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| That was in, what, the 1940s? It's possible it was some other Lestrange, not Rodolphus or Rabastan at all. Maybe even their father, though I don't suppose I'd count on it. |
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| Lariff |
| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:37 pm |
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| It seems like it would be Rodolphus though, because Avery is there as well.... And what do we know about Bella's age?? I get the impression she's around Lucius' age, and I also get the impression Lucius is older than MWPP/Snape... so maybe the gap isnt that big?? Plus, as mentionned so often in fandom, wizards.. age difference.. no biggie? |
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| Verity Brown |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:27 am |
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I wondered about this, too, because Sirius gives a list, in GoF, of Snape's peers. And the Le Stranges are on it. I have to either assume that it is their parents who are Tom Riddle's peers, or else Joanne forgot what she wrote before.
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| liquidscissors |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:45 am |
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Quote: I also get the impression Lucius is older than MWPP/Snape...
Lucius was born in 1955, Snape was born in 1960. |
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| Lariff |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:53 am |
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| Thank you liquidscissors. |
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| Idril |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:20 am |
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Misc Question:
Why is it that, compared to Snape's so-called "Trechery" and fandom's well-meaning indignation, Dumbledore's death seems.....dare i say....insignificant?
(It IS Significant though!!!) |
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| Lariff |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:31 am |
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| Significant as it may be, it was inevitable. He would either die from the poison, Draco, the DEs or Snape. |
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| Pace |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:56 am |
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Don't forget: it was announced beforehand that another main character would die and most guesses to that were either Lupin or Dumbledore, because those deaths would have made the biggest impact on Harry. So we did have a lot of time to get used to the thought of Dumbledore dying, esepcially since throughout the whole book he was getting weaker; think of his injured hand and his pleas to Harry to kill him - although that might have been the poison speaking.
What we weren't able to prepare for, though, was the identity of his killer. Nothing pointed in that direction with the exception of chapter two 'Spinner's End', and by that time everyone was mostly convinced that Snape was still playing the part (I am still convinced that he is).
Of course, the death of Dumbledore, resulting in the possible closing of the school also signifies the end of Harry's childhood. His mentor is gone and now it's time to stand on his own two feet.
So you're right: Dumbledore's death was not insignificant, but the fact that people had time to get used to it lessened the blow somewhat, I think. |
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| Two Methyloctane |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:58 am |
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| I agree. I think many people saw Dumbledore's death coming, even before the book was released. Also, I think many people here are Snape fans, and discussing his position, which is more ambiguous, is more interesting than discussing what Harry's going to do next. |
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| Lariff |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:05 am |
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We know harry's position: Find horcruxes. And destroy snape if he happens to bump into him (which I highly doubt.. Snape seems to be a man who if he doesn't want to be found, well best luck to you mate...)
But we don't know Snape's position. And that's why the interest lies there. That and of course, alot of us love Snape's character. |
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| Idril |
| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:11 am |
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I have a nagging feeling that Snape will be paying a visit to Harry (or one of his cohort (but most likely harry)) in the not-too-distant future.
I have a feeling that Snape still has a major part to play before the end (whether it is for good or evil, i don't know. But most likely good). |
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| Verity Brown |
| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:38 pm |
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I've been thinking a lot about why Dumbledore wouldn't tell Harry about the business with Snape. And there's one very good reason: Harry is a sucky Occlumens. Even though LV may have cut off the connection between them for the time being, there's nothing to say that he won't try using it again later. And if Harry and LV come face-to-face, and if Snape is there at LV's back, pretending to be his right-hand man, the very *worst* possible thing that could happen would be Harry thinking, in his unprotected little mind, "oh good, Snape's here and he's on our side."
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| Kherezae |
| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:46 pm |
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| I didn't think of that, Verity. You just cleared up the most confusing part of Snape being good for me @_@; Thank you, tons XD Harry really needs to buckle down and learn his Occlumency. |
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| QIK |
| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:20 pm |
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Well, according to the lexicon Voldemort is born December 31st 1926, that means his last year at Hogwarts was 1944. Rodolphus was born in the 1950's, so it has to be his father. He probably was born around 1928/1929. Avery Jr. was also born in the 1950's so it might have been his father, too.
Bella attended Hogwarts in the 70's so she's about the same age as Rodolphus, Lucius and Avery Jr. That would mean they all were at school with Molly and Arthur who were born around 1948/1951. (Bill was born in 1971, wizard society is somewhat conservative, I guess the first pregnancy with twenty isn't so far off)
Dumbledores death also shocked me less than Snape's supposed treachery. Maybe it's because the fandom relied on Snape being good and so on. (Well.. I still rely on that) The fact that he kills Dumbledore is much more significant to me because I didn't expect HIM to do it. Concerning Dumbledores death though, well, I expected it. Dumbledore was, after all, a major character (one of those was about to die) and after Sirius' death, I got the impression that all people who ever cared about Harry left him (Lupin had not yet been that significant to Harry), so it made perfect sense to me that Dumbledore had to die to continue with Lonely-Orphan-Harry. And Harry's thoughts on the last pages corroborated my theory) Hopefully that doesn't mean that the Mione and the whole Weasley family will die in book 7. |
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