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Alynna
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 1:34 am Reply with quote
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 24 Location: central Maryland
...where the term "snarky" came from? What does it mean, exactly? To me, it's always had a sort of fangirl, pet-name connotation that didn't at all reflect the true character od Severus Snape. It's not an actual word, as far as I can tell (and I know some bizzare English words, dangit), so I'm assuming a fic writer somewhere coined it.

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azazello
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:32 am Reply with quote
Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Posts: 183 Location: Northern UK
As I understand it is an American term (largely) and means sarcastic and also nit picking. The term "Snark" may come from Lewis Carroll's "The Hunting of the Snark" where in fact the Snark was non-existent.

Whatever, as a fairly entrenched Brit who holds the heterodox belief that the Potterverse is a British "thing" I find the word "snark" in fanfic and attached to Snape irritating beyond belief.

To the extent that it is a backbuttoning offence when reading for fun, and a teeth grinding irritation when I am admining on SH.

It's not a term a brit (and therefore by implication any canon character) would use in good English. It's bad slang in any version of English, too. And generally, it's been my own experience that folks who use it do tend to be members of Genus Fangirlius.

So in short, to those who use the term, your Snark is a Boojum.

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snarkypants
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 2:11 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 14 Location: Texas, USA
A quote from my story Solitaire:

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“Do you suppose that you could be less...snarky...with me?”

“Snarky? What is this?” He curled his lip as if the word tasted bad.

“It’s a word. It means sarcastic, cranky, rude.”

“That sounds like American slang,” he said. "You can do better than that. Confine your comments to the Queen’s English, Spanish or Latin. Even French would be preferable, although I really wish you wouldn't.”

She barely restrained the childish urge to put out her tongue at him. "Do you suppose that you could be less arsy with me, then?"

"I am no more arsy with you than I am with anyone else, Hermione."

"There's a ringing endorsement, isn't it?"


This was my way of apologizing for my unwitting part in helping to bring the word 'snarky' into wider acceptance in HPFF.

I heard the word in the mid-90s, on the tv show "Homicide" and immediately adopted it to describe general curmudgeonly behavior, and when I started my online diarist/fanfic writer 'career,' I was going to call myself 'Smartypants,' but it was already taken. So, Snarkypants I was. And it's far too confusing to keep multiple user names, and to switch all of my stuff over to another name...so...Snarkypants I remain.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
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azazello
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:10 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Posts: 183 Location: Northern UK
It's all right you using it about yourself. It's canon characters in fanfic using it about Severus I bar pretty strongly.

What's wrong with the word "sarcastic"? Because that's actually what he is.

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wiccarowan
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:14 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 1 Location: UK
I always thought it was somebody, right out there in the advent of Snape fanfic, getting the wrong end of the stick:

Sarcastic = sarky = snarky

Always used to say "sarky" when I was a kid, as in "there's no need to be sarky".
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goddessofsnark
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:39 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 7 Location: New Jersey
It's already been said as to what it is, although I've always considered snark to be a lot more biting and deadpan.

Whereas there is a sarcastic tone of voice that one uses when being sarcastic, if you're being snarky, you're deadpanning it and not giving the person any clue that you're making fun of them. Thus snark can be a lot crueller than sarcasm.

I first heard it in the HP fandom and then saw it applied to ER which is where I created my current moniker...
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Fraggle Grrrrrrl
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:36 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 5 Location: PDX, OR
From the Urban Dictionary:

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Snarky

Adjective - Any language that contains quips or comments containing sarcastic or satirical witticisms intended as blunt irony. Usually delivered in a manner that is somewhat abrupt and out of context and intended to stun and amuse. Origin: Snark="snide remark".


And since language evolves, and a lot of what we accept as common use words today were slang once upon a time, I will assume that eventually, this one will too.

Personally, seeing the word "snarky" in fanfiction makes my toes curl in disgust. Actually thinking of someone as snarky while writing them helps me get characterization in, especially during dialogue.

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TRE
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:35 pm Reply with quote
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I first heard the term "snarky" back in the early days of x-files fan fiction. Eventually, Snarkypup was one of my favorite authors.

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