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| Fionnait NíPheadar |
 Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:41 pm |
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Hello everybody!
I know that nowhere any siblings of Draco are mentioned, but does it say explicitly that he is an only child?
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| Max |
| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:52 pm |
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Hello, Fionnait,
as far as I remember, J.K. Rowlings said in an interview that Draco would be an only child.
I'm almost 100 % sure about that (I even mean to remember her saying something like "Who would like more Dracos?").
Yours
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| Fionnait NíPheadar |
| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:51 pm |
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So it wouldn't really be out of canon if someone would give him a sister, would it?
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| Max |
| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:00 pm |
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Huuuh,
now I wonder ...
Fionnait NíPheadar wrote: So it wouldn't really be out of canon if someone would give him a sister, would it?
Gwen
As I've said: J.K. R. said in an interview Draco would be an only child. And as far as I'm informed, J. K. Rowlings is the author of "Harry Potter" and therefore the person who makes the "canon".
So it's clear: Giving Draco a sister would be off canon.
Max
"Or perhaps in German: Wenn die Autorin sagt, dass jemand ein Einzelkind ist, dann kann man ihm keine Geschwister verpassen, ohne sich den Vorwurf einzufangen, die Wünsche der Autorin zu missachten." |
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| Fionnait NíPheadar |
| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:01 pm |
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I understand English perfectly well, thank you very much. There is no need to be rude or to insult my intelligence.
To me canon is what is written in the books. What J.K.R. says in an interview is like an expanded canon to me and if somebody decides not to go stricly by that expanded canon it is a less blatant breech of the rules than ignoring something written in the books.
You might have a different opinion about that, which is fine, but there is absolutely no need to tell me that in such a way.
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| snapeaddict |
| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:09 pm |
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Is this the "Germans only" thread? *g*
Draco is an only child and I think there are hints in canon to support that. There are no other Malfoy children in Hogwarts that means, there can't be a sibling less than six years his senior or less then 5 years his junior. Any brothers or sisters would have to be either much younger or much older.
Giving him a brother or a sister would be off canon but then it wouldn't be so outrageaously off canon that it would spoil an otherwise well-written story.
Judging from canon Lucius' character I find it quite possible though for Draco to have a half-brother or sister tucked away somewhere. *g* I mean, the man is not exactly what I'd call the ideal husband....
Grüße aus Hamburg
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| Max |
| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:20 pm |
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snapeaddict wrote: Is this the "Germans only" thread? *g*
Yes. But using German in it would be rude.
Max
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| liquidscissors |
| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:06 am |
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Allowing that Jo tends to talk at cross-purposes in interviews, what she writes in the books and what she tells a reporter from the Arsebackwards Nowhere Times are equally valid and equally canonical.
As long as it's directly from the authors mouth, it counts. |
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| azazello |
| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:49 am |
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Agreed. And she can change her mind and contradict herself if she so wishes. She's the author, she is god.
She's contradicted herself once or twice, most notoriously on Hermione's age. She's upset at least one BNF when she told an interviewer Lupin's middle name was "John" and said BNF had a hissy because she had always called his real name "Jupiter". Said tantrum ended up on fandom wank.
Never bet against the author of a work in progress. I'm convinced she nastied up Draco in book 5 (Umbridge's toady, anyone) as a backlash against Tom Felton/Draco Trilogy fangirls worldwide, or at least I'd personally like to hope so. |
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| Mizzlsd |
| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:52 pm |
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I know I'm probably going to go and get some backtalk about this, but in fanfictions do you really need to stay totally true to canon. I know it is much easier to read but if you stick to the book religiously wont it impair your imagination?.
I think you could write Draco having a sister, if it's what you want. JK is not judging our work, and it'll probably make her feel better. She probably goes and reads our fanfictions and then gets really annoyed when she see's an idea she had.
Possibly, seeing as Lucius is a deatheater, he does have a half-sister or brother. Death Eaters are probably notorious for rape.
And i'm sorry, this is only my opinion, so please don't be too mean  .
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| Diana |
| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:09 am |
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Just a few quick points.
J.K. Rowling's statement that Draco Malfoy is an only child comes from her World Book Day Chat, March 2004. If you would like to see a transcript of this chat, there is one up at The Leaky Cauldron. You can also type in 'World Book Day Chat' on google, and I'm sure it will pop up in the search results.
Now, about that pesky canon question. My opinion on the matter is that, yes, you can write things that are not 100 percent canon, but at the same time it is a fine line that you have to walk. Writing in a sister for Draco Malfoy is a little too over said line for me, but to each his own. You can write it, and some people will read it, I won't, but as I said above, to each their own.
Quote: She probably goes and reads our fanfictions and then gets really annoyed when she see's an idea she had.
I find that highly unlikely.
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| liquidscissors |
| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:21 am |
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Quote: Death Eaters are probably notorious for rape.
Rape who? They wouldn't sully themselves with a Muggle, and any magical sort would hex their nards off. |
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| sophierom |
| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:34 pm |
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liquidscissors wrote:
Rape who? They wouldn't sully themselves with a Muggle, and any magical sort would hex their nards off.
While I believe that there's been no canon evidence for the idea that Death Eaters are rapists, I don't think you can discount it simply because they wouldn't sully themselves with Muggles. There have been examples throughout history when those who consider themselves superior (white supremacists and Nazis come to mind) have raped those they consider inferior. Rape, which is an expression of violence rather than sexual desire, is another way for brutes to assert their dominance physically and emotionally. I don't think you can necessarily rule it out because of the Death Eaters' racial/pure-blood philosophy. That being said, I return to my original statement: there's also no canon proof that Death Eaters are rapists or that rape is a common occurrence at Death Eater gatherings.
Mizzlsd wrote: I know I'm probably going to go and get some backtalk about this, but in fanfictions do you really need to stay totally true to canon. I know it is much easier to read but if you stick to the book religiously wont it impair your imagination?
I recently read a discussion of Snape fanfiction on Avus's livejournal that I think addresses this issue indirectly but nicely. Avus compared developing fanfiction characters to writing a variation on a theme in classical music. The variations have to remain within a certain framework; they have to remain close enough to the original theme in order to make sense within the larger composition. So, while there's room for creativity, there's also a built in structure, built in limits that keep a composer/author from straying too far. Would a sister for Draco destroy the relationship between the variation and its theme? If this variation is developed well enough - if the author is able to provide adequate explanation for why the sister exists, why we might not know about her in canon, how she's related to canon, etc. - then I think it could work. If the variation is not developed well, it will sound/read as if it's out of place, unrelated to the main theme/canon.
Oh, and by the way, I hope that it's okay that I posted a link to Avus's livejournal. He presents a really fascinating look at Snape's psychology, if anyone's interested.
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